I'd think so, I recall Akira writing a story about Bardock and Gine, Goku's mother. While we are on the subject of canon characters, would Tarble be considered canon now because he was mentioned in BoG? He was eventually destroyed by his own overwhelming power. I believe it's up to the individual. Bardock attacking Frieza's death ball and the final shot of him being consumed by it are the main contributions to the film of the original special. r/dbz. The most basic level of canonicity that fans tend to agree on is "written and drawn by Toriyama himself, and exclusively so." However, due to the Minus chapter, pretty much everything seen in the Bardock: Father of Goku anime special has been retconned out, and is now considered non-canon. It was just a side story. There were plans for Trunks to similarly be able to transform into a Super Saiyan 4 in the game but these plans were scrapped when the developers were unsure of what color to have the transformed Saiyan's fur. Actually, Bardock: Father of Goku, is likewise non-canon now. Canon. Did all that stuff in the movie happen, I can't answer that. But Episode of Bardock contradicts that. I don't consider the Episode of Bardock canon because if that was the case they should've been told that story years ago. In DBZ, the super saiyans myths were traced back to a saiyan on the original homeworld of the saiyans who became the first SSJ. Can someone explain why he isnt? Not true. Having learned of the legend of the Super Saiyan, he orders all Saiyans back to the planet so he could wipe most of them out at once. Sysop. The "legendary Super Saiyan" in the context of the manga seemed to let live several centuries ago, and AT has 1) Not spoke out on Broly's canonicity and 2) Hasn't done anything to tie him to canon. This story is safe to be considered either way. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! 32 comments. Bardock uses this attack in his final attempt to kill Frieza in Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku, however, the Final Spirit Cannon was easily absorbed by Frieza's Supernova which destroys Planet Vegeta, killing Bardock, many of Frieza's soldiers, and the entire Saiyan race (apart from Goku, Vegeta, Tarble, Nappa, Raditz, Turles, Broly, and Paragus). Canon is just made up by the fans, there is no true canon in Dragon Ball, because Akira Toriyama has never stated anything to be non-canon, so therefore everything is canon. In the end you'll just reread the first sentence of this post again and reach the same conclusion as me. to me its just another fun crossover like cross epoch, or the dream 9 toriko, one piece, dragon ball collaboration special, or the kyutai panic adventure specials, i get the reasoning behind saying that the minus chapters are canon is because toriyama authored them, so the specials are definitely exempt, but saying that the minus chapters are canon is like saying that cross epoch is canon. La seule oeuvre canon concernant Bardock est malheureusement DB Minus. RELATED: Dragon Ball: 10 Best Filler Episodes (That Should Be Canon) level 1. The Legendary Super Saiyan Broly would gain access to Super Saiyan 4 along with Gohan, Bardock and Vegito. Likewise, there's the Dragon Ball Minus chapter of the Toriyama manga Jaco: Space Patrolman that deals with Bardock and his wife Gine, as well as the events leading up to Goku being sent to Earth. Episode of Bardock (where he goes SSJ) is NOT. This story is safe to be considered either way. Bardock's gone on to become one of the most popular Saiyan warriors in the series, not only appearing in countless videogames but also going on to have two specials detailing his exploits before and after Planet Vegeta's destruction. He did (to my shock) designed Broly, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Question. If you don't consider it canon, it's still ok. PC PlayStation 3 Xbox 360 Xbox One. Maybe the plot holes could be explained by Dragon Ball Online, the Time Breakers, so there, you got some logic in the story. share. Jw. Still, he liked Bardock enough to make him canon, to include him in the manga. With the exception of Dragon Ball Evolution. It's more like a spin-off (the manga and the episode). His hair also stands up in the front with 5 spikes and 4 in the back. (http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ultimate_Battle_Begins!)" Question. Aucun des OAV contenant le personnage prénommé Bardock n'est canon. And your way of ending the discussion is because this wiki don't have a Canon Seal of Quality (that's way DBGT remained not listed as non-canon in this wiki as the same way, the names of characters by Funimation dub instead the manga/japanese animes ones). Unlike his younger son, he has a tanner skin-tone and his eyes are more defined and sterner, much like his elder son. https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Episode_of_Bardock_Canon%3F?oldid=1355857. 5. Maybe the plot holes could be … He did like the character of Bardock and decided to make him canon but the story itself was never ever stated to be canon. ]], Another topic made me think about this. In this chapter, Goku arrives at the battlefield to meet Freeza. Do you guys consider Episode of Bardock canon? one of my favorite dbz movies tbh. He comments that Goku looks like Bardock. Broly is debatable. Is ssj Bardock canon? In other words, Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku should be half-canon. level 1. The interviewer actually specifies the film in their question. Bardock himself appears in two panels of the manga when Freeza recognizes Goku as being Saiya-jin, and then recognizes that Goku must have been related to the Saiya-jin that made a stand against him right when he destroyed planet Vegeta. *spoilres for the Bardock movie and Dragonball manga** Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. He is included in the manga and is also referred to by name during Freeza's flashback. Close. Thats a new one to me. Canon Bardock Revision. In the Manga, Frieza sees Goku and remembers Bardock, and it shows him in space confronting him. This thread is archived. Again though, I consider the movie to be canon, simply because it's to awesome to not be, imo. His hair is unkempt with 3 bangs hanging to the right of his forehead and 2 bangs hanging to the left. Toriyama's Dragon Ball Minus chapter of Jaco: Space Patrolman retconned and contradicts several of the major facts established in the Bardock special, thus making the special no longer canon. 5 years ago. Therefore, yes, Bardock is considered a canon character. I thought it was cemented after the new Bardock special where he goes Super Saiyan. His wife Gine was also part of Bardock's team at one point. of the manga was released. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Frieza has decided to eradicate the Saiyans once and for all in order to stop a Super Saiy… Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Is Bardock canon? However, after the special, he decided to include him in it. 69% Upvoted. in my opinion minus is supposed to just be a fun little thing for fans, nothing more. Bardock certainly is. Posted by 1 year ago. But he didn't write it. If you don't consider it canon, it's still ok. I don't know, but frieza talked about bardock in the anime and there is a manga of bardock so I think it's canon. Before the Bardock TV special, it is not clear if Akira Toriyama had any plans to include Bardock in the manga at all. Topic Archived; Page . Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Cordialement. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Bardock (バーダック, Bādakku), Burdock in Viz Media's English manga translation, is a fictional character from the Dragon Ball media franchise. It was more or less made up to promote Dragon Ball Heroes (the video game). For Dragon Ball: Xenoverse on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Bardock and Broly are no more canon than GT". Still, he liked Bardock enough to make him canon, to include him in the manga. As noted by Raditz and Frieza, Bardock bears a striking resemblance to Goku: he is a tall man of muscular built with black hair. Bardock Father of Goku was not created by Akira. He even talks about her, so I believe he is canon. save hide report. When Freeza sees Goku, he is reminded of when Bardock confronted him before he destroyed planet Vegeta. This video is unavailable. It doesn't really make sense now. Dragon Ball Super: Broly Just wondering. Bardock is not mentioned by name, nor is he actually shown during this time. In the manga, Bardock was only mentioned. In the second panel, Freeza refers to Bardock by name (バーダック). of 5; Next ; Last ; You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I've searched around but I still don't have a clear answer. If that's the case, your canonical version of Bardock's character, story, life, and events would be within the pages of "Jaco the Galactic Patrolman," not Naho Ooishi's tale. Bardock was a low-class Saiyan warrior, the husband of Gine, the father of Raditz and Kakarot, the father-in-law of Chi-Chi, the paternal grandfather of Gohan and Goten, the paternal great-grandfather of Pan, and the ancestor of Goku Jr. It was just a side story. Bardock as a character was NOT created by Toriyama so according to this logic, even the Bardock special wasn't canon. In the original (non-canon) Bardock: Father of Goku special, Bardock received psychic visions from a dying alien that alerted him to Frieza's plan. Bardock and Gine were one of the only mated Saiyans whose bond was tied by love for each other rather than for reproductive purposes. A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Watch Queue Queue. Bardock was a low-class Saiyan mercenary who leds a small platoon, comprised of four other Saiyan soldiers. 4 years ago. Dragon Ball Minus: The Departure of the Fated Child is a 2014 special chapter that ties into the plot of Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, another Akira Toriyama manga that Dragon Ball Super fans know is, in fact, canon to the main Dragon Ball Supertimeline. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! The story follows Bardock, Goku's father, who is sent back to Planet Vegeta by orders of Frieza. Dragon Ball: Xenoverse. Created by Toei Animation based on series protagonist Goku's visual design by franchise creator Akira Toriyama, he first appears in the animated television special Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku as its morally ambiguous protagonist. Some might say "it wasn't created by Toriyama so it's not canon". Is ssj Bardock canon? Bardock himself is canon. Speaking of poor Bardock, Dragon Ball Super: Broly really did a number on him for no good reason. In 1991, chapter 307 "[The Ultimate Battle Begins!] View Entire Discussion (7 Comments) More posts from the dbz community . Okay so I just finished watching movie adaption of Dragon Ball: Episode of Bardock and I'm confused. For one thing, it was a manga and Akira Toriyama helped with it. Later on, Toei animation made "Bardock - The Father of Goku" which is a TV special that aired on 1990 in Japan. IMO, aspects of it can still be canon, but the feature itself in its entirety cannot. because he appears in the manga written by Akira Toriyama. 1. Why do some people say bardock isnt canon. [[Category:{{{1}}}|Episode of Bardock Canon? It really doesn't matter, was only created to please the fans. Ain't no way in the fuck Bardock survived that blast from Frieza and went back in time and fought his ancestor named Chilled (even the name is stupid) so I nevermind that fan made shit. Continue browsing in r/dbz. It was not in Toriyama's original manga, therefore it is not canon. So while the overall OVA is not canon, Bardock confronting Frieza just before the planet's destruction is canonn. Broly, Bardock are both Canon. Log In to add custom notes to this or any other game. If you want to consider it canon it's ok, doesn't change anything in the main storyline. i dont see why the minus chapters in jaco should be considered canon. He is included in the manga and is also referred to by name during Freeza's flashback. Archived. he mentions that Goku looks just like his father, http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ultimate_Battle_Begins, he is reminded of when Bardock confronted him before he destroyed planet Vegeta. In chapter 307, when Goku first appears, Freeza makes the connection that Goku looks like the Saiyan that faced him before he blew up planet Vegeta. Some might say "it wasn't created by Toriyama so it's not canon". Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! In this special, Bardock is given the ability to see into the future where Freeza destroys planet Vegeta and almost all of the Saiyan race as well. It is easily o… (Dragon Ball Z & Dragon Ball Minus). Today at 07:50 #1 The statement where Toriyama says Bardock is very powerful amongst low-class Saiyans comes from an Episode of Bardock interview, meaning it's non-canon. That sucked, and Toriyama would agree with me. VS Battles. He even designed Chilled. He is included in the manga and is also referred to by name during Freeza's flashback. In Dragon Ball Super: Broly, Bardock uses the Final Spirit Cannon in the form of an energy wave, the sole attack confronting Frieza's Supernova. He did not have any visual image originally. Bardock makes an appearance in this panel and in this panel as well. Thread starter ByAsura; Start date Today at 07:50; ByAsura. Bardock as a character was NOT created by Toriyama so according to this logic, even the Bardock special wasn't canon. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. Watch Queue Queue Therefore, yes, Bardock is considered a canon character. Bardock's introduction in the 1990 TV movie Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku was never considered to be official canon by many. Here is the brief overview of how Bardock appeared in the manga: In chapter 196, when Raditz comes to Earth, he mentions that Goku looks just like his father. 6,953 927. Fatdude (talk) 15:19, July 27, 2012 (UTC). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Just recently, probably about a year or two that episode has been out and people automatically and seriously place it as being canon and apart of the immediate story. Yep, he shows up in a flashback during the manga http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ultimate_Battle_Begins! 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